wow, Matt, that's amazing I love your definition of God being outside of time. That fits with everything I understand. He sees all that's going on and knows it, and it also matters to Him. Yeah, He knows what we're gonna do because He let us and saw us do it years ago...and also years in the future? I love that He's omnipresent. DVD...yeah. He's so caring that He's watched our DVD enough to know what happens, and He didn't affect it, but He knows it. I'm pretty much repeating what you say, but that's a great way to think about God. You should come talk at my youth group...we'd love ya. Luke