so, because of the style they play they are satanic? assuming this is true, basically every genre of music is anti-god... including old hymns, since the church deemed them as satanic when they were introduced. seriously, you are not listing satanic bands. check out these links to bands that have lyrics that might help you're side of the argument a little better.. whatever you're trying to prove. http://www.darklyrics.com/m/marduk.html http://www.darklyrics.com/c/cannibalcorpse.html those are two bands that are probably more in the area of what you would consider lyrically disturbing. bands like HIM and the cure really make me wonder what you consider satanic. and about talent vs. popularity... i think you're missing brother reed's point. talent today is determined by popularity, not by actual skill. the bands that are at the top of the charts today are generally not very talented, they are just popular, and therefor considered to be the most talented bands today, which is ultimately not true.