you don\'t trust everything, or things that disagree with you? i assume you were checking up on whether what i said was true or not, and found that wikipedia agreed with me so it was probably wrong... i don\'t know why you would have known what i said was written there if you hadn\'t checked there right away to refute what i said. i actually didn\'t go to wikipedia. did you know that rhapsody also says that sunny day real estate is one of the most influential emo bands? funny how it agrees with me. here are some other resources that might make more sense. it always seems like the people who say rites of spring and embrace were the first two emo bands actually sound like they know what they\'re talking about, and they aren\'t using rhapsody as their source of definition. http://www.fourfa.com/ http://zillapedia.quizilla.com/r/212/Real_emo/ http://www.angelfire.com/emo/origin/