[b]rami009 wrote:[/b] [quote] umm, and about beats......there are only a certain amount you can have so thats why some stuff sounds the same.[/quote] there are still A LOT of beats, my friend [quote] green day brought the china and crash-ride sounds into punk and now people like fall out boy and panic at the disco are trying to have those sounds[/quote] I\'ll give you this... Greenday has more skill than fall out boy and panic at the disco... Panic at the disco doesnt even have an original sound... both of those bands sound the same