this is always an interesting topic because the Bible is clear that God does predestine SOME things... I do not believe by any stretch of the imagine that God predestines everything, but some things yes.... my personal theory is that God will pre-ordain the major things in history (i.e. Jesus' death, Pharaoh, Revelation, possibly other things that we aren't aware that were predestined). However, I do not think it would be necessarily correct to state that God predestines absolutely everything that happens, minor things, individual conversions outside of Paul and such One thing that makes me wonder about the idea of predestination is Romans 10:14-15: But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? And how can men preach unless they are sent? A major component that many of those who I have heard speak for predestination is that those who are saved will be saved and such, our going out and preaching is only in obedience... but this verse specifically states that our preaching is for salvation