I can't beleive we're still talking about this. Evolutionary origin has so many holes in it, it's ridiculous. Take the fossil dating system(please). They date fossils based on what layer of rock they appear in, and they date the layers of rock based on what fossils they find in it. What if I come to you with a piece of limestone, and want you to date it? Well, limestone appears at what? 4 different points I think, on the fossil column. It's so nuts, I can't believe anybody puts their faith in this garbage.