[b]barry wrote:[/b] [quote]Was Moses saved? How was Moses saved? These two questions should prompt us to think a bit about the mechanics of the salvation process. I think that most folks would agree that Moses was saved. We gather he was saved because of what we see from the writer of Hebrews: [b]Hebrews 11:24 “By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of G-d, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Messiah greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompense of the reward. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. Through faith he kept the Passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.”[/b] The writer of Hebrews is emphasizing the faith of Moses by showing his deeds. With the firm conviction that Moses was saved, we come to our second question: How was he saved? This is a bit of a difficult question for most christians because they see salvation as something that depends on the work that Yeshua did some 1500 years after the death of Moses. However, the Nazarene Codicil is quite clear as to the mechanics of how Moses was saved: [b]Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of G-d: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Messiah Yeshua unto good works, which G-d hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”[/b] The Apostle Paul writing to the Ephesians tells us that Moses was saved by grace through faith. This teaches us a very important lessons: Men are saved by grace through faith. From the first Adam to the last Adam, all are saved by grace through faith! When studying the faith of Moses, You will see that his faith was manifested through his deeds. In fact, the whole chapter of faith, found in Hebrews, emphasizes the deeds of those with faith. The Hebrew word for faith is “emunah.” This word does not teach us about a thought, rather it teaches us about actions. A more accurate translation for “Emunah” would be “faithful obedience”. So when we see the writer to the Hebrews emphasizing the deeds of the great men of faith, we can see that these deeds show a pattern of faithful obedience. Please remember that “emunah,” faithful obedience, requires actions and is not merely a thought process. As James said: [b]James 2:17 “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”[/b] Whenever you see the word faith, in the scriptures, you should always think “faithful obedience”.[/quote] Barry, I agree for the most part. However. You say that His Faith was manifested through his deeds. The I strongly disagree with. I say that the deeds are a result of his faith. Deeds are an outward expression of his fath. His faith most certainly was not manifested \"created\" by his deeds... Hid deeds were manifested by his faith.... That is why it says \"By Faith... he did thus.\" Scripture never asserts that \"By works, he had faith\" it is always the exact opposite, \"By Faith... Works are shown.\" As far as your \"faithful obidience\" I agree. Obidience, once again is a result of faith. Faith is not a result of obidience... Maybe you agree, and I misread what you were saying, but I think I read you right. B) -Matt