alright, i am not going to argue the points i am just going to give more proof. when i was a worldly man i went a lot of different places and i would pick up women. it was very easy, even many christian women. i did it by playing the emotions of the women. or making them feel sorry for me. negi i am guessing that you are young and have not been in many situations or did much away from home. if you have not the experience be careful because you lack wisdom and that can mislead people in very bad ways. i am not trying to put you down in any way. just simply stating that if you have never experienced it maybe you should ask questions or stay open to learn.