Hmm. Here's a post from another forum that kinda outlines what Matthew's beliefs. Sorry it's so long. [b]Matthew wrote[/b] [quote]Shalom, y'all! I hope nobody minds me jumping straight into such a controversial topic with my first post, but these issues are very close to my heart, and I cannot abide false information on such matters of critical importance. *sigh* but where to begin? Well before I say anything, I would advise everyone, as an admin on a similar Christian website, that anytime you quote extensively from someone else's work, you should always cite the work, and if you've not gotten permission from the author, you should be very careful that the length of your quotes falls within "fair use" limits. Wikipedia, using a Creative Commons license, is a different matter. How about this question of "What IS a Messianic (Jew)?" Firstly, it is important to recognize that not all calling themselves Messianics are Jewish, nor do they claim to be. Secondly, it really is the height of arrogance for one group to try to define the limits of another group. It's a little bit like a Lutheran telling a Wahabi that they're a bad Muslim. It's a pretty sure bet they won't care, because the Lutheran isn't even the same religion as him, and so what would he even know about how Muslims are supposed to act? So why is it Christians feel it is their place to tell Messianics or Jews that they aren't "really" the faith that hey claim to be? Why is it they think they can not only say that those who are Jewish by birth or conversion are NOT really Jewish, but in the same breath, claim that they who have never set foot in a shul, or celebrated any of the holidays actually IN the Bible, ARE the real Jews? You all may not think of it as anti-semitism, but it is. You may have heard it from a Christian teacher you respect, but that doesn't change the facts. Just look at "The Passion"... how many Christians went and paid good money to see that snuff film, despite all the press leting EVERYONE know that this was in fact, a play from the middle ages used specifically to stir up anti-Jewish sentiments, many of which did in fact lead to violent pogroms ? Unfortunately, in Christianity today, anything somebody can slap a Jesus sticker on seems A-OK. Not in my book. I've always found it ironic that even the most "conservative" Christians are really quite liberal by Jewish standards. They, like liberal or reconstructionist sects of Judaism, see the Torah as a burden, instead of a blessing; as legalism instead of the path to right living it was intended to be. But the Bible is clear- Israel was intended from the start to be a nation of priests; recipients and guardians of G-d's Holy Word, through whom all nations would be blessed; that whosoever blesses them will be blessed, and whoever curses Israel will be cursed. Does this mean Jews see themselves as being any better? No, not at all. In fact, quite the contrary, most synagogues discourage would-be converts three times from so doing, before allowing the person to proceed. But, friends and brethren, G-d is no racist. He does not lay down one standard for one group, and another standard for another group. That which is pleasing to the L-rd, is pleasing to Him whomever is doing it. I see talk here and elsewhere about "Jewish holidays" or "the Jewish calendar and holidays" but they're really "biblical laws" and "biblical holidays." But Messiah... He was most definitely Jewish. It's important to remember this, because He HAD to be, in order to fulfill the prophecies. It's also important to remember this, if we claim to follow Him. It's easy to say we do, but much more tricky to actually do as He did, speak as He spoke, act as He acted, eat as He ate, celebrate and love that which He celebrated and loved. There is no evidence in the Bible that Yeshua ever intended to create a new religion. Everything He corrected were the rules of men, not the rules of G-d. He preached against substituting the words of man for the Word of G-d, but He NEVER spoke against any part of G-d's Word. How could He? G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor the Son of Man, that He should change His mind. (Num 23:19) And what of this theology that says that the law is dead, to those living under grace? Well a simple chronological analysis disputes the theory- the age of grace came with Abraham (whose faith was counted to him as righteousness) and the law wasn't given until Moses. And any small example will serve to show how silly it is that G-d doesn't expect us to keep His Word, just because Messiah did. Jesus paid His taxes- does that mean we don't have to? He refrained from sexual immorality- does that mean it's okay for us to engage in it? Of course not. It would be silly to suggest such a thing. But Christians do suggest such things everyday. They're just a little more clever about it. They never suggest throwing ALL of G-d's laws away.... just the parts they don't like, that THEY feel are either outdated, or for another group of people entirely. So they pick and choose which laws they like, and which ones they congregants will stick around and keep, and throw out the rest. [/quote] Here's the thread it's from, Matthew's username is Mobius there: [url]http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/6622-im-jew.html[/url]