I agree that we need to go back to fully understand what Romans 9 is saying, but maybe a little further than 8, more like to chapter 1. I've found that by reading all the way into 9 in one sitting gives us the correct perspective of Romans 9. I'm not gonna lie. If I read Romans 9 without knowing the rest of that letter plus other scriptures in the Bible, I would believe that the Calvinistic framework is totally correct and the only correct way to view the Bible. So we have to get a full understanding of what's being said to properly exegete that chapter. We just went over this chapter in our Bible study last week and we started in 6 and went to 9.