MaddMatt :) Leo, Those who say Yeshua is Hashem would argue that Moses knew and seen Yeshua as it was he who appeared to him. I do not think Moses knew Yeshua the man as he was not yet born or came into existance yet. I do believe however, without a doubt, that Moses would have seen Yeshua for who He claimed to be, the Messiah. [b]John 5:46 - "For if you really believed Moshe, you would believe me; because it was about me that he wrote."[/b] Look at this man: [b]Luke 2:25 "There was in Yerushalayim a man named Shim`on. This man was a tzaddik, he was devout, he waited eagerly for G-d to comfort Isra'el, and the Ruach Elohim was upon him. It had been revealed to him by the Ruach Elohim that he would not die before he had seen the Messiah of ADONAI. Prompted by the Spirit, he went into the Temple courts; and when the parents brought in the child Yeshua to do for him what the Torah required, Shim`on took him in his arms, made a b'rakhah to G-d, and said, "Now, ADONAI, according to your word, your servant is at peace as you let him go; for I have seen with my own eyes your yeshu`ah, which you prepared in the presence of all peoples -- a light that will bring revelation to the Goyim and glory to your people Isra'el."[/b] Moses knew as well as anyone that a kinsman redeemer was to come, by all means yes! Moses would know this salvation when he looked upon him. Moses had the faith to believe Hashem was going to do exactly as He had written it through him.

Ya know Leo, on the flip side of that, there are those today that profess a faith in Yeshua as Messiah and would not know him if he knocked on their door. Yeshua taught: Matthew 5:20 -"For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P'rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" Also: 2 Peter 4:18 "If the righteous is barely delivered." This shows that we must do all that the Torah teachers did and more, the more being love. If you loved him you would do all that he has written, without question. Father, Amarta Amarta!

So... you really are saying that his works are what made him righteous? -Matt